Tuesday, May 06, 2008

Djinn and trinity

Even if someone rejected that Djinn exist then he that person would still remain muslim.

Also the belief in the djinn is not like the pagan belief of the trinity which became the belief of salvation. Is that right or not? It amazes me that the entire salvation of the Christans is based not on actual clear evidence but on unclear methaphor.

Its like if a text said the door is ajar then someone said you have to believe that the door is a jar and if you don't then you are going to hell.

So this is what you base salvation on? unclear methaphor?
I base my salvation on the belief of the prophets because my belief and their belief is the same.

Monday, May 05, 2008

Differences in Judaism/Christanity/Islam

I want to make one thing perfectly clear that there is only one God.

Theres no muslim god or Christan god or Jewish God. There is one God, full stop.

As for the differences Judism and Islam have many issues that are similar as for Christans this was not a seperate group from the Judism and in fact they were seen as a sect of itself.

It was only later was they were paganised like worshipping on Sun- day the day of the sun which is in line with the sun diety Baal. Who was believed to be the son of the sun - who was sacrificed for the sins of mankind. sound familiar?

Or you could look at Mithras which was someone who called the lamb of god sent to remove the sins of the world. Sound familiar? Yes of course. He was a son of god, as well, sent to remove the sins of the world.

Even if you refuse this then you must at least except that the son of god theroy has root in paganism. Which was then taken on by paul and added to the belief.

There was a history docu on television a while back and a historain was suprised about the pagan images which had then been copied into christan theology.

As for the proof of the trinity its clear from clear verses that this contridicts the ten commandments. And if you are trying to refute this then you are trying to refute your own bible.

Sunday, May 04, 2008

Jesus (upon him peace) lived like a Jew and refuted the Trinity

Jesus (upon him peace) was called king of the Jews(Mathew 23.38), Mark 16, 26. Why? If was living differently then he would've called something else. This also proves he had the same beliefs of them. Now compare this to the pauls version which has no place for the law.

He was living like a Jew, so this confirms what came before. It was Paul who changed Christianity to what it is today, after the forcing of the trinity onto the people by the roman emperor Constantine.


Jesus (upon him peace) spoke in Aramaic and he said, "Peace be onto you." Mathew 24.36. Peace means salam in Arabic and to you means alikum.

So what was he saying? Salam alikum, the Muslim greeting the same greeting that Adam (upon him peace) gave then angels.


Consider this, If you loved someone for what they don't have then you find out he doesn't have that thing does that mean your love is lost? Yes of course you love him for what he does not have so what do you think he thinks of you?

So the muslim have more right to Jesus (upon him peace) that the Christans because love him for who he is.


And to rebut your first line:

Mathew 4, 10, "Then Jesus said to him... Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God , and him alone shalt thou serve."

So this proves that there is one God and no sons him alone shall you serve.
Mathew 19, 18, "keep the commandments."

“If you want to enter life, obey the commandments.” (Matthew 19:17, also see Mark 10:19).

He also said that Jesus is the servant of that God, for we read in Acts: “The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified his servant Jesus.” (Acts 3:13). This confirms his belief in what came before and what will be so anyone believing in the Trinity is believing something other that what Jesus himself believed.





Mark 16.34 Jesus cried in a loud voice, "E-loI, E-loI La ma sa-bach'tha-ni" Which is, "My God, My God why have you forsaken me!"

If he was part of the same being then why would he call out like he was calling to someone other than himself. Answer they are not the same. Also E-LoI means my god if you take out my then it means God from the same word Allah.


You also claim he turned a river into wine, why would he when he said, "I will not drink henceforth from this wine, until that day when I drink it new with you." Mathew 26.29 He means here that he will drink it only when he is in paradise not whilst on earth.


Jesus said, "The father is greater than I." John 14.28. This negates similarity - so they are not the same - So Jesus cannot be divine because they are not the same.


Luke 16.13. "No servant can serve two masters for either he will hate the one , and love the other; or else he will hold to the one and despise the other. Ye cannot God and Mammon." This again proves that there are no godlike being because this would mean that you would become confused.


Why would a prophet commit a sin for? Muslims believe that Jesus is sinless and you believe him to be sinful. This is another reason why the muslim belief is sound and safe.

Thursday, May 01, 2008

The conquest of Mecca

So lets look at the army that went to Mecca on the way the Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of God be upon him) saw a dog giving birth. He instructed a soldier to guard the dog and prevent it from being distrubed.

When he entered the city, he was riding a donkey, with his head bowed in such a manner that his beard touched the back of the donkey.

He made a decleartion that anyone who entered into the house of Abu Sufyan was safe from harm. Abu Sufyan was his enemy who had fought against him for 20 years, had killed many muslims and the Prophet said anyone who enters the house of my greastest enemy is safe! Does this sound like a normal person to you?

There was little resistance in fact only those who had killed muslims were put to death.

In any country when a city is sacked its inhabitants are put to the sword or massacred. These were all people who had fought him for over 20 years.

When they gathered, He asked them, "what do you think I shall do to you?" They said, "O noble one son of a noble man be just that." He replied, "I will say to what Joseph said to his brothers there is no reprisal upon you today. you are free to go." No mass killings. If a nation fought you for 20 years who you just let them go? Any normal person would've killed them.

Many of them became muslims because of this.


The sacred law is about the rights of God and these cannot be disobeyed - if they are then the societies go to ruin. If you look at western societies then the lack of rulings in terms of illegal fornication leads to all sorts of problems. Children dont know their fathers are and children are abandoned so forth.


If a case is taken to a judge then you don't expect the judge to forgive the person do you. You expect that the person is punished same here.

Read the whole story with an open mind then it'll all fall into place start with Muhammad: based upon his earlist sources by Martin lings.

Wednesday, April 30, 2008

Sperm emanation

http://www.understanding-islam.com/related/text.asp?type=question&qid=100

The latter part of this verse, i.e. "emanating from a place between the (lower) back and the

(lower) ribs", has generally been taken to imply the part of the abdomen that lies between these points. In Figure 1, this part has been roughly marked by the triangle ABC. This implication, obviously, has led the Muslims to believe that the sperm itself or its basic ingredients are made within the (roughly) marked area. I, being a novice in the related fields, asked a few of my doctor friends about the making of the male sperm and the supply of its ingredients to the ultimate place of its making. In response, among a few other things, I was told that although the male sperm is formed in the testes, yet the blood supply which, obviously, is integral to the making of the sperm comes from between the ribs and the back. I was also told by one of my doctor friends that the cells that form the sperm originate from between the ribs and the back. If this is true, then the words of the Qur'an are not scientifically incorrect, as the words "emanating from a place between the (lower) back and the (lower) ribs", do not necessarily imply "emanating in its final shape" only, but can also cover "initial emanation".

Tuesday, April 29, 2008

Zakat or alms

Zakat that has roots in the Arabic word zaka which means to purify. So when we give charity we purify our wealth by giving what we are greedy withhold.

When you pay zakat you are giving to the poor help support those in need and this helps re-distribute the wealth to the poor.

Also we will be rewarded for the charity we have given - one good action in Islam is rewarded ten times more than previous nations of believers. So one pound of a Muslim is worth more than 10 pounds of previous nations.

So even though you are giving here - you can going to get back over there - on the day of judgement. That's the generosity of God/Allah because you give now and later he will give us much more than what we have offered. Purely because of his generosity.

What violence?

Then why has Cat stevens done on to lots of Charity work in bosnia and he has found schools etc. Are these an actions of a terrorist?

Firstly the tabari narration is not about the Prophet Muhammad he did not fire any arrow here and this is in the time of war against another tribe. War is deception.

Secondly that the to cut off the poets tongue meant to pay off the poet so he would not compose poetry against them.

Ishaq:595 "The Apostle said, 'Get him away from me and cut off his tongue.'"

This was also about a poet because the poetry in that time was like the media. Also permission was not given.

Ishaq:312 "Umar said to the Apostle, 'Let me pull out Suhayl's two front teeth. That way his tongue will stick out and he will never be able to speak against you again.'"

This was from from people who has stolen the property of the muslims from the pagans of mecca who had plundered from them. Also they did not kill them.

Ishaq:316 "Following Badr, Muhammad sent a number of raiders with orders to capture some of the Meccans and burn them alive."



Qur'an 8:12 "Your Lord inspired the angels with the message: 'I will terrorize the unbelievers. Therefore smite them on their necks and every joint and incapacitate them. Strike off their heads and cut off each of their fingers and toes."

This is an incorrect translation - here is the correct translation.

"When your Lord inspired the angels, with whom He reinforced the Muslims, [saying]: ‘I am with you, with assistance and victorious help, so make the believers stand firm, by helping [them] and giving [them] good tidings. I shall cast terror, fear, into the hearts of the disbelievers; so smite above the necks, that is, the heads, and smite of them every finger!’, that is, [smite] the extremities of their hands and feet: thus, when one of them went to strike an disbeliever’s head, it would roll off before his sword reached it. The Prophet (s) threw a handful of pebbles against them and every single idolater was struck in his eye, and thus they were defeated."

So if Islam was as violent as you want us the believe then you would find more than this.

In fact you are looking for certain things and highlighting them and ignoring the good things about Islam.

Monday, April 28, 2008

Jesus confirmed the religion and law of the previous prophets

Jesus said, "Do not think that I came to destroy the law or the Prophets. I did not come to destory but to fulfill." Mathew 5:17-18

What is the greatest thing that the previous Prophets came with? The torah and the ten commandments which say:
1. I am the Lord your God

2. You shall have no other gods before me
You shall not make for yourself an idol

So no follower of Jesus can change the language of something as clear as this but it did happen paul changed this all. This was not for paul to change as her you can see he going against the speech of the Prophet which is madness!


Also Muslims reject the original sin which can be proved by the bible

"God does not punish the children for the sins of the parents." Ezekiel 18.20

So to those who say this is the old testement and we have the new testement that overrides this. Then look at the speech of Jesus who said he came not to destroy but to fulfill the law of the previous prophets.

This negates any form of divinity because that is based on a methaphor. How can you base the entire salvation upon an unclear methaphor? This is all false and misguidance.

Saturday, April 26, 2008

Paul changed the teachings of Jesus

Do you actually read history or are you reading something else?

Lets make it easy for you

Jesus - follows the laws of the Jews

Paul - divorces the law and causes the break from the jews.

So is not a change to you?


Jesus - respects women

Paul - considers women to be the tempators of men and says that they should remain the quiet.

Another change to religion.

Jesus - prayed in the jewish places of worship

Paul - made seperate buildings


Another change

Jesus - was a monetheist

Paul - is a trinitarian

another change
All these gospels are attributed to paul and none to Jesus? How could that be?

Epistle to the Romans -- Paul
First Epistle to the Corinthians -- Paul
Second Epistle to the Corinthians -- Paul
Epistle to the Galatians -- Paul
Epistle to the Ephesians -- Paul
Epistle to the Philippians -- Paul
Epistle to the Colossians -- Paul
First Epistle to the Thessalonians -- Paul
Second Epistle to the Thessalonians -- Paul
First Epistle to Timothy -- Paul
Second Epistle to Timothy -- Paul
Epistle to Titus -- Paul
Epistle to Philemon -- Paul
Epistle to the Hebrews -- Anonymous, traditionally attributed to paul

James was the brother of Jesus and he apposed belief of Paul. Paul then conspired to have James murdered.

Paul not Jesus is the main source for theology

http://www.sullivan-county.com/news/paul/paul.htm

The original sin is something that orginates from Pauls writings

And it has nothing to do with anything Jesus said.

another change

so thats seven changes so far.

Jesus - does not claim divinity

Paul - claims he is son of god

thats eight changes

Heres paul changes in line with pagan beliefs of zoastrains
http://www.sullivan-county.com/news/mine/zoroastianism.htm

In the preface to Edward Gibbon's History of Christianity, we read: "If Paganism was conquered by Christianity, it is equally true that Christianity was corrupted by Paganism. The pure Deism of the first Christians . . . was changed, by the Church of Rome, into the incomprehensible dogma of the trinity. Many of the pagan tenets, invented by the Egyptians and idealized by Plato, were retained as being worthy of belief."

Heres more about Arius


So rather than "explain" things he completely changes christanity from a part of judasm into another religion that is seperate even from the one they call their prophet - Jesus (upon him peace).

Monday, April 21, 2008

Jesus violent verses?

"Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to turn "a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law--a man's enemies will be the members of his own household." (Matthew 10:34-36)

"If anyone comes to Me, and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be My disciple." (Luke 14:26)

"But now, whoever has a money belt is to take it along, likewise also a bag, and whoever has no sword is to sell his coat and buy one." (Luke 22:36 )

"Perhaps people think that I have come to cast peace upon the world. They do not know that I have come to cast conflicts upon the earth: fire, sword, war. For there will be five in a house: there'll be three against two and two against three, father against son and son against father, and they will stand alone."
gospel of Thomas 16

Oh and its part of a muslims belief that he believes in the Prophethood of Jesus upon him peace.

Quran: protected

Jesus is not god heres proof from the Bible

Tuesday, April 15, 2008

Why would I believe in God?

Thats an interest question

If you don't believe in god then why live a like a good person whats the point? Then why dont you commit evil then refuse to believe in any consequences for your actions.

God/Allah is great and part of his greatness is that he gives us chance after chance to believe and we forego every chance.

Where did we learn good character?

Was it from ourselves? Well this is impossible before the age of enlightenment of the west (because the east was alight at this time) there was a period of darkness and a lull in learning. part of this learning was charaters of the prophets.

For example it is well known that Jesus upon him peace was a forgiving prophet and spread peace. This character was embraced by thousands of people. So this proves that a person on their own cannot come up with good character because he needs an example, right?

Like free kick expert can show people tricks how to take a free kick because he knows - look at david beckham.

So who is seeming someone human to educate humans that they can reach good character? That has to be from a greater authority that is God.

If you believe that everything is created and it has a dependant lifespan then there must be some power which is independant bring them from non existance into life then into death.

So if things are coming from non-existance into life then into death who is taking this created thing from one stage to the next? You must conclude that is God/Allah. The ever living, the uncreated, cause of all causes, right?

There was once a man who argued with Ali ibn Abu talib about the afterlife. The man refused to believe in it. Ali said, "If you are right and I am wrong. I am okay and you are okay. But if I am right then I am still okay but you are not."

I don't know about you but I am not a betting man. I like to have things ready before I die and part of that is belief in God/Allah and his prophets including the final messenger Muhammad (peace and blessings of God be upon him).